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April 21, 2011 might be coming back?!

Filed under: Blogroll, Gaming! — Tags: , , — Hugsie @ 12:47 am

Friend of mine told me to check out There’s main home page has a link to a survey that might help Makena determine if there’s enough interest in opening it back up. They will redub it as “There2” which is ironic since they already did a v2.0 release some years ago.

There are some caveats to this. First it will be a subscription based only service. No freebie account, and no trial memberships. Existing members can reclaim their accounts IF they pay for membership first. Fortunately lifetime beta members will STILL be free (phew!!)

Also talked about is how the developer program would be put back into place, but approvals will be MUCH slower, however they talk about a peer based approval system in the future. Also they talked about the service being 18+ only, which is ironic since SL just lowered thier minimum age requirements to 13 since the closing of the Teen Grid due to it sucking too much. This doesn’t mean that There will allow adult content, nudity, etc.  Though it might be possible down the road but not in the short term.

The survery bascially asks what pay level you’d be willing to pay and what type of payment. Monthly,  hourly, or a bundled discount. Considering WoW users pay about $14 a month (or more?) i don’t see why we should pay any more than $10-$15 per month (except they have 10 million users.)  Preferably I’d rather pay about $60 for a whole years membership much like Xbox Live gold membership.

One big problem I see is they aren’t allowing free trial accounts. So how is a new user going to get interested enough to want to pay for it? One thing that Second Life has done is create a web-browser based “guest” login with a dumbed down client that runs very well, but limited functionality.  The avatar is a sort of a disposable account, with a generic user name (234346 guest) that lasts one hour and lets you explore, and chat.

Buying T$ will be avalible but reselling it via users to users will be banned. Which exactly how are they going to track that anyway?  It’s not like Makena can monitor my paypal or bank transactions.  But it does sound like they want to create their own exchange market.  Hopefully something like LindeX where users buy and sell in a market. Unlike how it was originally for where T$ just came from no where, which wasn’t a solid economic system.  Makena even blamed losing a large percentage of profits from 3rd party T$ trading.  Well geez you’d think Baloo would have figured that? It only seems like developers can resell their T$, which is a bad idea since there are other ways to make T$ than just making clothes and buggy paint jobs.

If they make it a TRUE market exchange (like LindeX) and allow all members to use it, and Makena can take a cut in every transaction, with a semi-fixed set pool of T$ to be exchanged, then they might have something they can work with, other than “money from thin air” approach they had used in the past.

At the bottom of the survey says they will make an announcement in 30 days.  30 days from when? I don’t see a date mentioned, and i only heard about it today so… who knows.  You’d think they would have mass-emailed their users about this.  But i guess they are relying on word of mouth. has been closed for a little over a year, no one will visit the old main page unless they already knew something is going on.

So lets help spread the word people!

Micheal Wilson has been blogging about this survey. With results of over 2000 users responding.

Friend of mine pointed this out to me though. With little to no customer support, and no updates to the software other than something major (security wise) and very slow developer submission turnover, why would anyone wanna pay for something that will be more half-assed than it already was?


  1. Hello I was a There player and I am happy to say I did in fact get a e-mail from them asking for me to answer there survey today.

    Comment by MochiAureOhimeSama — April 28, 2011 @ 2:49 pm

    • I never got one. Perhaps it’s an e-mail address I don’t use anymore.

      Comment by hugsalot — April 28, 2011 @ 6:35 pm

  2. I took a survey on I guess that when There ended, mine did too. I have tried everything out there and none measured up to There. I would pay by the month however much they wanted. I hope they bring our There back for us all to play.

    Comment by Warren — May 2, 2011 @ 5:48 pm

    • I did get the email on one of my alt accounts. But Second Life is far superior, and seems to appeal to a larger audience than did… mostly adult content that just didn’t exist on with out some hacking.

      Comment by hugsalot — May 3, 2011 @ 6:03 pm

  3. I am ecstatic that There is back online.
    I became quite downcast when it closed. I had invested a lot of time and money getting my World together and meeting new friends.
    I have tried other Virtual Worlds, and There was by far the most user friendly. I am quite prepared to pay $10 a month.

    Comment by NoWhere Man — November 8, 2011 @ 10:18 pm

    • That user friendlyness comes at a price. You have less control, less power, and less options. You’ll soon get bored of the service as a platform However it’s the the people you meet that is making you log in every day. Not because it’s easier to use, or to say that another MMO is too expensive, or to difficult to use.

      It’s like growing up in your home town, and how difficult it would be if you had to move.

      Comment by Hugsie — November 9, 2011 @ 3:32 am

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